Tag: tfp

Ratchet’s tale of the war’s backstory makes no sense pt.1 – preface

this is something that has been bothering me for a long time – almost since my first watching of the series, although my most recent re-watching made me stop to think about it in more detail & realize how completely impossible & illogical it is.

to explain how little sense it makes, I’m going to quote the whole story as Ratchet tells it in “one shall rise part 3″ and then try to break the story to its part. the more I got into the backstory, I found that even though it is a relatively short story(Ratchet tells it in about 3 minutes) – I had so much to unpack the post got too long so I’m going to break my commentary into several posts and I hope you’ll enjoy them.

btw, yes. I am aware that tfp has some book/games that explain the war’s backstory, but I have no way of getting them, so I’m going to go by what the show itself tells us and my own logic

part 2 – Orion Pax

sidenote

I started writing a post about the mess that is Ratchet’s backstory for the war on Cybertron, but as I wrote down the story and started writing my thought about it it became very very long (over 1000 words so far) so I’m wondering: do you think I should finish writing the whole thing in one post or cut it down to different points I find interesting in multiple posts?

I’ve started re-watching tfp again today, and I found a lot of things I liked, and plenty of things I hate – and didn’t really notice or pay attention to when I first watched it. so expect possible rants about it in the near future…. 

 since some people seemed interested this post, I thought more about the similarities between the Seekers & the Jewish revolt against the Roman Empire, and I found quite a few parallels that I intend to talk about in more depth when I have more time. but this is one I just have to talk about now, at least briefly:
The Name – in the second rebellion, the leader of the rebels was called “Bar Kokvah” which literally translates as “son of a star”, and after his own pride led to the failure of the rebellion he was renamed “Bar Kuzeivah” which means “son of lies”. 

side note: in Hebrew referring to someone as a

“son” of something was kinda like defining them – in the way a parent makes the child – that thing is the core of that person. 

(there are other versions that claim his real name was  Bar Kuzeivah & it was changed to Bar Kokhvah during the revolt but honestly, both versions fit Starscream so idrc)

that could not be more perfectly Starscream if I made it up… (which I, obviously, didn’t)

I feel that in tfp, there is a huge disconnect between what the Autobots are telling us is going on & what’s actually going on.

there are quite a few examples of that. one the really bothers me is the one from the episode “convoy” in season 1.

once the Autobots discover the attackers are human, Optimus says: “…apply minimal force, disarmament only!”

I’m ok with that, the Autobot remind us again & again that they are protecting ALL humans, and aren’t taking a side in a fight between them. their only objective is to protect humans by making sure the weapon doesn’t explode or fall into hands that will use it to harm people.

except, only less than 5 minutes later (about 3 minutes to be precise) Arcee jumps on a car, causing the guy who was on it to fall down, the car causes another car to flip and EXPLODE. no way was anyone in that car able to come out alive. 

that wasn’t self-defense, they had no real way of harming her.

that’s right. The first humans killed on screen by Cybertronians are killed by the Autobots, not the Decepticons. I find it actually amazing that I have yet to see a post pointing that out.

breakdownsbuttlights:

You know those hilarious “cowardly Knock Out” moments, where we see KO screaming hysterically and ducking for cover in the face of something that may or may not be an actual threat? 

Those don’t begin, in the show, until after he’s run over by a train on a mission immediately following Breakdown’s death.

That’s not cowardice, that’s trauma, pass it on.

i don’t think it’s the train. he seemed mostly annoyed by it… i think it has more to do with megatron abusing him as a replacement for starscream